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A Hero's Farewell

Discussion in 'Critique & Feedback' started by George Streicher, May 28, 2020.

  1. Trying out new styles! This is an attempt at sounding more like a hip / modern film composer.

    I'll admit this exercise was more about production than composition. I have so much to learn about electronic music production (hiphop, dubstep, etc) and all the techniques and tools therein.

    Any and all tips and/or resource recommendations are welcome!

     
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  2. No one has replied yet so I thought I would.

    First, as I have already mentioned, everything about your music/presentations has gone up a level. Congrats.
    That said; I am just going to cut to the chase with my criticisms.

    Take what inspires you to learn, and leave the rest. Learn to collaborate. Leadership is more valuable than individualism. You don't see Hans doing everything by himself. The other bonus is you can create something that you never would have done on your own.

    Can I give you a "secret" that changed my opinion on this topic after I became more on the "inside"? Aside from credits, (or lack thereof) if you ever pitch for one of the few big agents, the number 2 (#1 is credits or lack thereof) reason for rejection is: "We already have that".

    This sounds nice but anonymous. This is more like "library music". Musical "tourism".

    Structurally it sounds like 2 different songs.
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    Lastly: Can we finally prove that video claiming no one can ever remember the "Avengers theme" is now totally proven wrong.

    Move away from that key. Avoid that 5-3-1 (Gmi-Eb-C) progression. While it avoids being a direct copy it still inhabits the same space. (5-4-3-2-1 of g minor) The same basic outline is here.
    When Silvestri copies the James Bond theme we go from g-d (implied gminor) to g/eb (impied Eb) to G/E (implied c in 2nd inversion)

    The fast 3-2-1 you do for g minor happens in Avengers around 1:27.

    Look, most won't care or notice. I am just trying to encourage you to keep on pushing yourself, and also think about if you really need to focus
    on running around or just focus on your strengths.

    Wishing you all the best

    Doug
     
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  3. I just wanted to say I genuinely enjoyed your piece. Think you deserved to hear that :) Good job.

    I have no experience in this, so I cannot give you any advice. But as a listener, since you said you wanted to sound "modern": I feel all your synth sounds sound kind of dated. It feels like a modern soundtrack for a film set in the 80s. If that impression is what you were aiming for, cool. Else maybe try another setting or another library, with some cooler, fresher, more modern synth sounds.

    PS

    Yeah funny, I always had to think about this when Mike talks in his masterclasses about the Captain America music being totally forgettable. The Avengers theme is cool and a lot of fans can sing/play it. Maybe that's part of why the franchise was so successful. (And furthermore proves Mike's point.) But after all it was el maestro Alan Silvestri! (And not a Brian Tyler or similar) I think the music of basically all other recent Marvel movies is just as forgettable as most soundtracks nowadays.
     
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